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			<description>&lt;p&gt;hello, i am a student at north devon school of art, my work is based on everything concerned with north devon and the environment. i make all my own paint and inks from locally sourced natural and renewable materials and use these to illustrate the outstanding natural beauty of our countryside. i think you are doing a great job!!  good luck for all future events.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: natural art &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/13#post13&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/13#post13&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>eco muma</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: You can't 'be green' in a recession</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;It's also where growing food in local gardens and allotments really starts coming into its own. We dug up most of our lawn 6 months ago and now we're enjoying courgettes, green beans, broad beans, strawberries, raspberries, fresh salads, beetroot, carrots, peas and new potatoes at very low cost. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;People also start depending on one another more when times get tougher, which can revitalise communities. It's wonderful how sharing gardening tips, lawn mowing for compost, and fresh vegetables can really get people communicating again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, yes, I reckon we can actually become far greener during a recession.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: You can't 'be green' in a recession &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1?start=0#post12&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/reply/1?start=0#post12&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:02:36 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Serena</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: Transition to low energy use</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Andy and colleagues&lt;br /&gt;Your article on the future of North Devon is most welcome &lt;br /&gt;You are right to use your article to highlight the 10:10 campaign as a good starting point for both businesses and individuals to reduce their carbon emissions and adjust their lifestyles. I also agree with you that it is essential for us to be planning to generate our own renewable power locally. Communities and landowners in North Devon are very well placed to create community owned renewable energy initiatives and the recent government announcements on the ‘Feed in Tariff’ now make this option much more viable. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately, this opportunity is seriously undermined by climate change sceptics and the massive anti renewables campaign - both of which are being funded by the oil companies1 and countries that have a vested interest in disrupting the move to a low carbon economy. &lt;br /&gt;This has contaminated the debate and has persuaded so many to unknowingly support the pro-oil lobby. 2&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are many good points you make in your article however there is one aspect I wish to strongly disagree with. It seems that you are suggesting that we need in part to rely on nuclear power based energy. The danger in making such a statement is that it will encourage people to believe that we can carry on developing a non-sustainable economy fuelled by nuclear energy. Nuclear power is a clear example where we are ‘externalising’ the cost of our unsustainable way of life. The real cost of nuclear power is never factored in to the bills we pay. These externalised costs will be paid for by future generations, these will include: the real build cost, the real cost of mining and supplying the fuel, the costs of decommissioning, the cost of inevitable accidents, the cost of storing and safeguarding the waste from accidents and terrorists for hundreds of years. When these externalised costs are taken into account nuclear power is not only highly toxic and dangerous to the health of all beings, but also its use will prove massively costly to the planet and to our grandchildren and their grandchildren.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is important that the Biosphere does not fall into the trap of promoting an unsustainable economy fuelled by nuclear power as the way forward.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As well as Climate change there are other global changes taking place that will significantly influence the future of the Biosphere and our local economy.  Declining oil reserves (Peak Oil3) will mean that we will see a continuous rise in the cost of oil-based products. As the economies of Brazil, Russia, India and China and other ‘industrialising’ economies grow, competition for scarce oil and other commodities will have an affect on the price we have to pay. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This will have a significant impact on all local households and businesses with low-income households paying the most. In the near future there will be many more households in the wider Biosphere reserve area who will find it increasingly difficult to afford to heat their homes or use their cars, as they do now.4 The rising cost of oil will also have a profound affect upon our local agricultural systems.5&lt;br /&gt;Another significant factor affecting our future is our current unsustainable ‘just in time economy’ which is very vulnerable to disruption6. We are heavily dependant on a few supermarket outlets for our food supply7. Even in an agriculture region we rely on virtually all our food being shipped in by oil-based transport. This food on the whole is grown with oil-based fertilisers and scarce minerals, harvested and processed by oil and mineral driven machinery and packaged in oil-based wrappers. The forecast8 of a rapid decline in oil supplies means that in the future our economy will be forced to adapt and change.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our local economy is also vulnerable to other big changes taking place in the global economy. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Every day in the news we see examples where the global economy relocates jobs to where ever the profits are greatest. As we have seen in the last 24 months the world economy can flip into recession within a matter of weeks and dump millions of people into unemployment and poverty condemning whole communities to idleness, in the form of unemployment and a lives wasted.9&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So what does this mean for our regional economy, the challenge of reducing the causes of climate change and the Biosphere?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If the Biosphere is to conserve our world-class environment and be a model for low carbon development we urgently need to build a new economy in our region organised ‘as if people mattered’ as Schumacher described. This new economy would:&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Have far simpler material living standards and high levels of wellbeing.&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Develop high levels of self-sufficiency within households, communities and towns. &lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Produce many of the goods and services we need through local labour and resources.&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Have cooperatives and participatory local decision making systems.&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Have a radically different culture, in which competitive and consumerist individualism is replaced by frugal, self-sufficient, creative communities and individuals10&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Have high levels of social trust (social capital) and effective networks to help to stimulate the economy and support good institutions and governance.11&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Protect the natural environment and work for the benefit of all eco-systems within the Biosphere and not just the people.&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Be designed to reduce the causes of climate change. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is not a utopian dream. If we are serious about meeting the challenges you have outlined in your article this is the type of economic transformation in which we need to aspire. We cannot expect to see the emergence of this new economy and transformed behaviour over night. It is likely to come about in the medium term – perhaps over the next 15 to 30 years.  As this new economy emerges we will see small incremental steps and some rapid changes brought about by disruption and shocks. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At present only a small number of individuals and communities see the need to adapt their lifestyles, businesses and farming practices so they have the capacity and resilience to flourish in the future. Most people will for some time be highly resistant because they will not want to forgo their consumerist lifestyles. A few will be fiercely resistant because they will fear losing their privileges. This resistance will be balanced by a new generation of young people who care passionately about the welfare of their planet. We will need to find ways of working with all groups, no matter what stage of awareness they have reached.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I want to make the case that the Biosphere and its partners can only fulfill its role of being a model for sustainable development if they proactively support the emergence of a new economy. As we see the decline of trust in government we need local organisations like the Biosphere to help nurture the kind of innovation we need to see.12 &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What could the early steps in this transition look like? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is important that we build on the very limited discussion so far by initiating an inclusive and interactive dialogue about how our area addresses these challenges.13 This will provide an early opportunity to start building a network of the many individuals, organisations, communities and businesses who will have a stake in conserving our world-class environment and being part of this transition to a post carbon economy. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One of the outcomes of the dialogue should be a broad agreement on the common ground14 we all share in the need to develop this new economy. As we take each step we need a Biosphere wide ‘transition’ plan that sets out the practical strategic actions that will begin to create this new economy. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hope you find these ideas helpful and I look forward to receiving feedback and comments. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kind regards Neil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exxonsecrets.org/&quot;&gt;www.exxonsecrets.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/news/North-Devon-wind-farm-decision/article-1781597-detail/article.html&quot;&gt;http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/news/North-Devon-wind-farm-decision/article-1781597-detail/article.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Powerdown options and actions for a post carbon world. Sheinberg, Richard.2004&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jan/27/pensioners-poverty-ons-inequality&quot;&gt;www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jan/27/pensioners-poverty-ons-inequality&lt;/a&gt;. http:// and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/news/Poor-families-hit-huge-heating-bills/article-1979608-detail/article.html&quot;&gt;www.thisisnorthdevon.co.uk/news/Poor-families-hit-huge-heating-bills/article-1979608-detail/article.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soilassociation.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=EttWlupviYA%3d&amp;amp;tabid=387&quot;&gt;http://www.soilassociation.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=EttWlupviYA%3d&amp;amp;tabid=387&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4253402.ece&quot;&gt;www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4253402.ece&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tescopoly.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=39&amp;amp;Itemid=189&quot;&gt;http://www.tescopoly.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=39&amp;amp;Itemid=189&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. &lt;a href=&quot;http://transitionculture.org/essential-info/what-is-peak-oil/&quot;&gt;http://transitionculture.org/essential-info/what-is-peak-oil/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. culturechange.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=605&amp;amp;Itemid=1&lt;br /&gt;10. The Transition Towns Movement: Its Huge Significance and a Friendly Criticism. Trainer,Ted. 2010&lt;br /&gt;11. Cooke and Morgan. 1998. Putnam, R. 1993&lt;br /&gt;12. We-Think, Mass innovation not mass production. Ledbetter, Charles. 2008&lt;br /&gt;13. Leading Change, A guide to whole systems working. Attwood, Pedlar, Pritchard &amp;amp; Wilkinson. 2003&lt;br /&gt;14.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Discovering Common Ground, Ed. Weisbord. Marvin.  1993&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Transition to low energy use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5?start=0#post11&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/reply/5?start=0#post11&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:51:04 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>neil spencer</dc:creator>
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			<title> A low carbon future</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Matt&lt;br /&gt;I wanted to follow up your comments about creating the right environment for action to flourish.&lt;br /&gt;Four years ago I was involved in a research project for the Environment Agency reviewing the potential to use new ways of working and learning to support the Agencies work in communities with the poorest environments. This involved a team that had expert knowledge of designing and implementing regeneration projects, River Catchment Planning as well as leading academics whose expertise covered behaviour change and community learning.&lt;br /&gt;I think some of the relevant messages from this research for the challenge you describe are:&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Sustainable development in an organisation or system requires both individual learning (intellectual capital) and organisational learning (organisational capacity)&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The provision of information alone is not enough to change practice&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Many partnerships are using approaches that are ineffective&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Effective partnerships are using new interactive approaches to learning and change&lt;br /&gt;•&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There is clear evidence for the effectiveness of these new interactive approaches &lt;br /&gt;The Transition Towns movement and Permaculture (as highlighted by Dave Dan) are two very good examples where interactive approaches to learning are being used with great effect to help make the transition to a low carbon future. &lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately the evidence strongly suggests that delivering the right messages and the right climate of partnership is not going to get us very far.  &lt;br /&gt;I look forward to hearing your comments&lt;br /&gt;Kind regards Neil&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Transition to low energy use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5?start=0#post10&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/reply/5?start=0#post10&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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			<dc:creator>neil spencer</dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave - definitely no code. We are interested in landowners/managers of course, what they do has a profound effect on us all, but are interest in generating understanding, pride and confidence as foundations extends beyond them. It is dangerous to label people as conmsumers or producers - as you rightly point out, we are in reality both - and the ability to take positive, sustainable actions applies to both. Our (joint) challenge is creating the right environment for that action to flourish - that is delivering the right messages but also the right climate of partnership etc. Matt&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Transition to low energy use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5?start=0#post9&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/reply/5?start=0#post9&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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			<dc:creator>Matt Edworthy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Matt&lt;br /&gt;1.  A Transition Initiative can be based on any community - not just towns.&lt;br /&gt;2.  I think that one of the problems is that we are labelled as 'consumers' and expected to buy things such as foreign food.  We all have to become producers to a certain extent, or more intelligent consumers.&lt;br /&gt;3.  If your comment is some sort of coded message that you are only interested in landowners then I'll de-register my interest right away.  In any sort of future crisis it is as likely that landowners will be as dependent on others as we will be on them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Transition to low energy use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5?start=0#post8&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/reply/5?start=0#post8&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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			<dc:creator>Dave Dann</dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;One of the features of the Biosphere Reserve is that it is based on an eco-region concept defined largely by drainage catchments. It includes not just towns but also the land in between and the smaller, often quite isolated communities within it. This is important because the communities are those where land use choices are made - they include the farmers who manage the land are often the focus for a variety of hospitality and other small businesses that often have very immediate links to a quality environment. The Biosphere Reserve can at its best provide a stimulus and focus for these communities to act together to address the issues at the heart of North Devon's sustainable future. For example, people in Winkleigh recently came together to look at their collective carbon footprints and small communities often have a coherent enough community spirit to take on such projects that can be hard in towns where 'finding a call to arms' can be hindered by larger numbers of people with a wider range of interests and backgrounds and influences. By focussing on towns, the transition town movement can and does make headway into those communities of 'consumers' but can often overlook the producers and sustainers at the real interface between people and environment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Transition to low energy use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5?start=0#post7&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/reply/5?start=0#post7&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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			<dc:creator>Matt Edworthy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;a timely discussion on the issue of 'community'...   &lt;a href=&quot;http://transitionculture.org/2010/01/15/why-community-might-not-need-organising/&quot;&gt;http://transitionculture.org/2010/01/15/why-community-might-not-need-organising/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Transition to low energy use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5?start=0#post6&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/reply/5?start=0#post6&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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			<dc:creator>Dave Dann</dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;I'm glad to see this discussion started.  Personally I think that it is very difficult to get people interested in the problems of climate change - it's intangible, maybe unproven and difficult to focus on in a freezing January.   Easier to grasp is the possibility that we have reached a peak of oil production and that energy prices will probably increase (although you seem to think that new technologies will come online - what are they? - got any references?).  How will farners, for example, cope with rising oil prices?&lt;br /&gt;At the leading edge of community response to climate change and peak oil is the Transition Towns movment, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.transitiontowns.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.transitiontowns.org/&lt;/a&gt;, based in dear 'ole Devon.  Rather than 'reinvent the wheel', I suggest that anyone interested in this topic should download and read the Transition Initiatives Primer, &lt;a href=&quot;http://transitionnetwork.org/Primer/TransitionInitiativesPrimer.pdf&quot;&gt;http://transitionnetwork.org/Primer/TransitionInitiativesPrimer.pdf&lt;/a&gt; .  This document and the follow-on 'Transition Handbook' give good ideas for community action.   Other good sites for serious reading about the future are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse&quot;&gt;http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse&lt;/a&gt; for an economics course and &lt;a href=&quot;http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt; for a more general view of the future of industrial society. &lt;br /&gt;Response to these issues is sporadic and unco-ordinated in N Devon at present.  However there IS a wealth of existing community organisations, such as the parish councils and the W.Is.  &lt;br /&gt;The Biosphere is an exciting concept (Australian permaculturalist David Holmgren , &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.holmgren.com.au/&quot;&gt;http://www.holmgren.com.au/&lt;/a&gt;, has suggested that local government should be based on eco regions like the biosphere) but I think that it needs to promote discussion such as this if it isn't to be seen as a fancy name for a nature reserve.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Transition to low energy use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5#post5&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/what-do-you-think-the-future-holds-for-north-devon-2/show/5#post5&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Dave Dann</dc:creator>
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			<title>Copenhagen Climate Summit</title>
			<link>http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/4#post4</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi - The Copenhagen Climate Summit is coming up in December (6th  to 18th). &lt;span style=&quot;text-decoration:underline;&quot;&gt;What should we as Biosphere Community members be doing &lt;/span&gt; (if anything) to put pressure on world leaders to sign up to meaningful carbon emmission targets invloving developed and developing nations? I have signed up to the 350.org campaign (based around keeping worldwide carbon levels to the 'safe limit' of 350 parts per million or less). What are you doing? Is it more about local action and doing what we can rather than relying on govermentmts that seem to put economic development ahead of climate change concerns?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Tell me what you think!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Copenhagen Climate Summit &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/4#post4&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/4#post4&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt Edworthy</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: You can't 'be green' in a recession</title>
			<link>http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1?start=0#post3</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree - you can make sensible, sustainable choices at any time. Buying in season, local produce doesn't cost any more. In fact, the out of season produce often costs more as it is transported in from other parts of the world with all the associated carbon footprint. Other things though like buying energy efficient light bulbs and insulating your home can cost up front, even if they save money in the long term. Help is often available from energy suppliers and local authorities - look on your energy bill, on this website or on the Devon.gov website. They often have lots of info.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: You can't 'be green' in a recession &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1?start=0#post3&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/reply/1?start=0#post3&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:21:34 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt Edworthy</dc:creator>
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			<title>Re: You can't 'be green' in a recession</title>
			<link>http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1?start=0#post2</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;Surely there are advantages to buying really well grown local produce. These advantages will become more relevant in the future as the real cost of energy and transport starts to be felt. But for now, the nutritional and taste advantages far outweigh the extra cost. We have several farmers markets here in Melbourne and to be fair, the value varies tremendously. There are always those who seek to capitalize on the idea of meeting the grower, and who charge accordingly. There are others who want to give something to the community that promotes health and a sense of global responsibility in the face of  changing conditions. We can be trained, or train ourselves, to do almost anything, including develop new habits of growing and sharing our own food, no matter how big or small our gardens. (Herbs and vedgies grow well in pots too) changing the mindset is the key.  Work regards from chilly Oz - Harry and Maribel Williamson&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: You can't 'be green' in a recession &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1?start=0#post2&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/reply/1?start=0#post2&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:43:27 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Maribel Steel</dc:creator>
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			<title>You can't 'be green' in a recession</title>
			<link>http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1#post1</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;When we are all worried about our jobs and the cost of living, how can we be expected to spend more being sustainable? Buying local stuff costs more and so does buying organic. Go to any supermarket and see!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: You can't 'be green' in a recession &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1#post1&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northdevonbiosphere.org.uk/general-discussion/show/1#post1&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:18:52 +0100</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Matt Edworthy</dc:creator>
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